Saturday, July 5, 2008

Why we went to war ~Liars ~ Yellow cake

Why We Went to War in Iraq

By DOUGLAS J. FEITH

A lot of poor commentary has framed the Iraq war as a conflict of "choice" rather than of "necessity." In fact, President George W. Bush chose to remove Saddam Hussein from power because he concluded that doing so was necessary.

President Bush inherited a worrisome Iraq problem from Bill Clinton and from his own father. Saddam had systematically undermined the measures the U.N. Security Council put in place after the Gulf War to contain his regime. In the first months of the Bush presidency, officials debated what to do next.

As a participant in the confidential, top-level administration meetings about Iraq, it was clear to me at the time that, had there been a realistic alternative to war to counter the threat from Saddam, Mr. Bush would have chosen it...

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Liars

By Tom Brewton

The liars, it turns out, are liberal-progressives, not President Bush.

Read 'Bush Lied'? If Only It Were That Simple. by Fred Hiatt, the Washington Post editorial page editor. In the editorial dated June 9, 2008, Mr. Hiatt writes:


Search the Internet for "Bush Lied" products, and you will find sites that offer more than a thousand designs. The basic "Bush Lied, People Died" bumper sticker is only the beginning.

Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), chairman of the Select Committee on Intelligence, set out to provide the official foundation for what has become not only a thriving business but, more important, an article of faith among millions of Americans. And in releasing a committee report Thursday, he claimed to have accomplished his mission, though he did not use the L-word.

"In making the case for war, the administration repeatedly presented intelligence as fact when it was unsubstantiated, contradicted or even nonexistent," he said...

But dive into Rockefeller's report, in search of where exactly President Bush lied about what his intelligence agencies were telling him about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein, and you may be surprised by what you find."

Repeatedly in his summation, Mr. Hiatt quotes Senator Rockefeller's report as stating,"...The president's statements "were generally substantiated by intelligence community estimates."

...But the phony "Bush lied" story line distracts from the biggest prewar failure: the fact that so much of the intelligence upon which Bush and Rockefeller and everyone else relied turned out to be tragically, catastrophically wrong....
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Report: Uranium Stockpile Removed From Iraq in Secret U.S. Mission

Saturday, July 05, 2008

The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program — a huge stockpile of concentrated natural uranium — reached a Canadian port Saturday to complete a secret U.S. operation that included a two-week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage crossing two oceans.

The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake" — the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment — was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam's nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions.

What is now left is the final and complicated push to clean up the remaining radioactive debris at the former Tuwaitha nuclear complex about 12 miles (19 kilometers) south of Baghdad — using teams that include Iraqi experts recently trained in the Chernobyl fallout zone in Ukraine.

"Everyone is very happy to have this safely out of Iraq," said a senior U.S. official who outlined the nearly three-month operation to The Associated Press. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject....

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22 comments:

clif said...

Yo dolt wanna know where all that yellow cake REALLY came from?

From the IAEA's Iraq Nuclear Verification Office

(published before Bush came to power)

Indigenous production and overt procurement of uranium compounds

* Imported 4,006 kg of natural uranium and 6,005 kg of depleted uranium (DU) from Italy in 1979
* Imported 1,767 kg low enriched uranium (LEU) from Italy in 1982
* Imported almost 50 kg of highly enriched uranium (HEU) from Russia and France
* Procured 429 drums containing 138,098 kg yellowcake from Portugal in 1980
* Procured 487 drums containing 148,348 kg yellowcake from Portugal in 1982
* Procured 432 drums containing 137,435 kg of yellowcake from Niger in 1981
* Procured 426 drums containing 139,409 kg of yellowcake from Niger in 1982
* Imported 24,260 kg of uranium dioxide from Brazil between 1981-82
* Produced 109 tonnes of uranium in 168 tonnes of yellowcake at Al Qaim uranium recovery plant, which was constructed between 1982-84
* Produced 420 drums containing 99,457 kg uranium dioxide at Al Jesira uranium conversion facility
* Produced UF6 at Rashdiya Engineering and Design Centre
* Processed uranium dioxide to produce UF4, uranium metal and UF6 at Tuwaitha Chemical Laboratories
* Processed UO2 and yellowcake to produce UO2, U3O8, UO3, UO4, UF4, and uranium metal at Tuwaitha
* Experimental Research Laboratory for Fuel Fabrication
* Processed UO2 to produce UCl4 at Tuwaitha Chemical Engineering Research laboratories


Well he DID get some from Niger, but NOT when George the dumb Lied and claimed he did, but while he was Reagan, Bush41 and Dumsfeld's best friend attacking Iran for them ......

Keep spinnin' the Italian forgeries to create the fraud that Feith (the stupidest fucker on the planet according to Gen Tommy Franks) is hawkin' dolt.

clif said...

BTW this is from the Fox news story dolt;

Israeli warplanes bombed a reactor project at the site in 1981. Later, U.N. inspectors documented and safeguarded the yellowcake, which had been stored in aging drums and containers since before the 1991 Gulf War. There was no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991, the official said.

Even fox says it ain't nothing from when Georgie lied about.

Mike said...

Yeah the little repuggies seem to either post lies, half-truths or outdated facts.

Didnt that jackass Troll Tex trot out this decades old Reich Wing "story" to try and deceive people before the 2006 election.......which they lost ugly BTW.

BTW Clif, doesnt this story that yellowcake was in Iraq since the early 1980's make GWB's "CLAIM" that Saddam was TRYING to obtain yellowcake from niger even more fishy........I mean if Saddam allready had all this yellowcake why would he NEED to buy more, and if he DIDNT have the required centrifuges to refine it........then why would he buy more.

Mike said...

Oh and Dolty, I think it would be MORE accurate to say GWB cherry picked the intelligence to twist it and make it say what he wanted............you know lies of ommission.......something Reich Wingers know and use quite well.

Mike said...

HMMMMMM aweful quiet in here huh!

Voltron said...

Well Cliffy, at least you went to a legitimate news source for your comment.
I half expected you to cut and paste some bullshit from Joan Cole...

Voltron said...

And yes Mike, it IS pretty quiet in here during the day.
Some people have to work for a living. How else are you going to get your SSI check every month?

Voltron said...

Oh and as far as the intelligence used, your lib buddy John D. Rockefeller did a congressional report on that.

Why don't you quote that?

And please quote the facts outlined in the report not the summary which is unsupported by the report itself.

Mike said...

Voltron said...
Oh and as far as the intelligence used, your lib buddy John D. Rockefeller did a congressional report on that.

Why don't you quote that?

And please quote the facts outlined in the report not the summary which is unsupported by the report itself."


First of all duncetron.....Rockefeller isnt one of MY buddies I think its an Oxymoron to call ANY Rockefeller a liberal or progressive same goes for those losers Pelosi, Reed, Hoyer Clinton..........Your the partisan stooge not me pal, i have never been a Dimorat nor will I ever be after cowardly stunts like today.........so stop trying to lie and say who MY people are and what my positions are........I dont defend a party or its failed policies right or wrong like a partisan ideologue YOU DO.

Second why would i quote a report by Rockefeller the stooge that is 3 steps removed from the actual NIE that Bush et al used to dishonestly cherry pick to lie and deceive us into this disaster of a war.

You REALLY goy NOTHING left THATS why you claim people like Pelosi, Reed, Clinton, Rockefeller, Hoyer, Katie Couric, etc.......are "MY" people.......I cant stand them.....they are not as bad as Bush/Cheney Rove........but they are not that much better and they certainly arent MY people.

Mike said...

Voltron said...
And yes Mike, it IS pretty quiet in here during the day.
Some people have to work for a living. How else are you going to get your SSI check every month?"


Yeah i guess some payed attention in school and some didnt.......jealous arent ya no wonder ya dont want to fund or support education you want America inbred stupid so they will be deceived by your lies dishonest talking points and propaganda.

Mike said...

Oh And voltron......its a REAL shame your slaving away at work.......me i'm drinking a beer and writing this from a boat in Lake Erie.......been tubing, watersking, jetskiing drinkin and partying all day.......guess it SUCKS TO BE YOU HUH?

Rustyridesagain said...

Poor,poor deluded Mike.The closest he's ever been to Lake Erie is seeing a picture of it.If he did ever go tubing the fat bastard whould somehow have to get a tube from an earthmover to fit his big ass.And for the partying part his mummy and dad must have left him alone with a bottle of lotion and his Lydia posters.

Rustyridesagain said...

Barry really stuck the broom handle up the liberals asses today and then broke it off.GO FISA!!!!!

Will "take no prisoners" Hart said...

Mike, are you saying that you're independently wealthy and don't have to work? Wow,this is getting rich. Seriously, though, how 'bout answering some of my questions at the end of the previous stream? Can't water-ski and chew gum at the same time?

Rustyridesagain said...

You guys gotta go look at LC,the morons are beside themselves.BHO's vote on FISA has them all in a twitter.Bart (A.K.A. Worf) is leading the charge with their resident gay guy Jolly Rodger not far behind.The only one who has'nt chimed in is Col.Klink.They are now thinking about getting behind Barr.I think Jolly Rodger would get behind most anyone...wink,wink...nod,nod.

Rustyridesagain said...

I'm really not one to disparage someones intellect,but there's a poster at LC,I think he's their resident gay person who honestly believes that George Bush,once he leaves office is going to flee the country to take up residence in Paraguay.....yea thats right Paraguay.I'm certainly not trying to highlight this persons stupidity,but can someone please tell me why this guy is running free among the gereral population.Maybe its just me,but that a bit scary.

Rustyridesagain said...

God bless Tony Snow,may his soul rest in peace.

Voltron said...

"We could also start desalination of ocean water. Imagine how this would help bring down the levels of rising oceans due to global warming of polar ice caps. Think about it. We should be doing mass desalination."
-from the main page at the echo chamber...

Should I tell her?

Rustyridesagain said...

Prior to becoming,what is it she calls herself.....oh yea actress,political activist,writter (I know we're still waiting for her book) Lydia worked at Laurence Livermore Labs as a rocket scientist.She is blonde after all.

Rustyridesagain said...

Rusty is leaving tomorrow for a month long diving trip in Bonaire with nine others.No lap tops,just two satellite between us,so I'm going to have to miss the rantings of the LC lemmings.....oh well,there's a cost for everything.

Rustyridesagain said...

BTW,for those interested,check out the next cover of the New Yorker magazine.They have a cartoon of Barry dressed as a muslim and Mrs.Barry dressed as a 1960's type black radical...this is on the cover.Smashing,smashing I say.

Voltron said...

Well it looks like I don't have to explain it for her. Clif beat me to it....lol

Have fun in Bonaire Rusty! Maybe you'll run into Carl, he's a diving enthusiast too and claims to go there on occaision...
(you remember Carl from LC's?)